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To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n
\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n
\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

<\/p>\n","post_title":"Composer Michael Yezerski Interview (Ivy + Bean)","post_excerpt":"Today Rachel talks with composer Michael Yezerski about his career and new project Ivy + Bean","post_status":"publish","comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","post_password":"","post_name":"composer-michael-yezerski-interview-ivy-bean","to_ping":"","pinged":"","post_modified":"2022-09-06 12:44:45","post_modified_gmt":"2022-09-06 19:44:45","post_content_filtered":"","post_parent":0,"guid":"https:\/\/www.rotoscopers.com\/?p=61699","menu_order":0,"post_type":"post","post_mime_type":"","comment_count":"0","filter":"raw"},{"ID":61289,"post_author":"41","post_date":"2022-04-07 00:00:00","post_date_gmt":"2022-04-07 07:00:00","post_content":"\n

One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

<\/p>\n","post_title":"Composer Michael Yezerski Interview (Ivy + Bean)","post_excerpt":"Today Rachel talks with composer Michael Yezerski about his career and new project Ivy + Bean","post_status":"publish","comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","post_password":"","post_name":"composer-michael-yezerski-interview-ivy-bean","to_ping":"","pinged":"","post_modified":"2022-09-06 12:44:45","post_modified_gmt":"2022-09-06 19:44:45","post_content_filtered":"","post_parent":0,"guid":"https:\/\/www.rotoscopers.com\/?p=61699","menu_order":0,"post_type":"post","post_mime_type":"","comment_count":"0","filter":"raw"},{"ID":61289,"post_author":"41","post_date":"2022-04-07 00:00:00","post_date_gmt":"2022-04-07 07:00:00","post_content":"\n

One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

<\/p>\n","post_title":"Composer Michael Yezerski Interview (Ivy + Bean)","post_excerpt":"Today Rachel talks with composer Michael Yezerski about his career and new project Ivy + Bean","post_status":"publish","comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","post_password":"","post_name":"composer-michael-yezerski-interview-ivy-bean","to_ping":"","pinged":"","post_modified":"2022-09-06 12:44:45","post_modified_gmt":"2022-09-06 19:44:45","post_content_filtered":"","post_parent":0,"guid":"https:\/\/www.rotoscopers.com\/?p=61699","menu_order":0,"post_type":"post","post_mime_type":"","comment_count":"0","filter":"raw"},{"ID":61289,"post_author":"41","post_date":"2022-04-07 00:00:00","post_date_gmt":"2022-04-07 07:00:00","post_content":"\n

One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n
\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

I knew that I didn't really want to be exclusively a symphonic composer. It's a very tough competitive career, and not that film isn't, it is as well, it's I was looking for different avenues of what can I do with this education and with this love of music. And I think media composing, whether it was for film, television, advertising, any kind of drama or even the theater was appealing. I was looking for ways to get the music out into the world that wasn't necessarily traditional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

Were you thinking at that point, oh, I'm gonna do symphony, that kind of a thing?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I knew that I didn't really want to be exclusively a symphonic composer. It's a very tough competitive career, and not that film isn't, it is as well, it's I was looking for different avenues of what can I do with this education and with this love of music. And I think media composing, whether it was for film, television, advertising, any kind of drama or even the theater was appealing. I was looking for ways to get the music out into the world that wasn't necessarily traditional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n
\"Stream<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Were you thinking at that point, oh, I'm gonna do symphony, that kind of a thing?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I knew that I didn't really want to be exclusively a symphonic composer. It's a very tough competitive career, and not that film isn't, it is as well, it's I was looking for different avenues of what can I do with this education and with this love of music. And I think media composing, whether it was for film, television, advertising, any kind of drama or even the theater was appealing. I was looking for ways to get the music out into the world that wasn't necessarily traditional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

No, I graduated from high school and then I actually did four years of an honors degree in classical formal composition music education at the time, at the university. So I was studying with a couple of Australia's most acclaimed concert composers. One of them has unfortunately passed now, but I went for them and particularly to study with them. And came out of it with this very rigid and formal training, which I'm really proud to have. But at the same time, I still wanna know some practical elements. Like what can I do with it now? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Stream<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Were you thinking at that point, oh, I'm gonna do symphony, that kind of a thing?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I knew that I didn't really want to be exclusively a symphonic composer. It's a very tough competitive career, and not that film isn't, it is as well, it's I was looking for different avenues of what can I do with this education and with this love of music. And I think media composing, whether it was for film, television, advertising, any kind of drama or even the theater was appealing. I was looking for ways to get the music out into the world that wasn't necessarily traditional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

So you graduated from high school and then started then did this course?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

No, I graduated from high school and then I actually did four years of an honors degree in classical formal composition music education at the time, at the university. So I was studying with a couple of Australia's most acclaimed concert composers. One of them has unfortunately passed now, but I went for them and particularly to study with them. And came out of it with this very rigid and formal training, which I'm really proud to have. But at the same time, I still wanna know some practical elements. Like what can I do with it now? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Stream<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Were you thinking at that point, oh, I'm gonna do symphony, that kind of a thing?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I knew that I didn't really want to be exclusively a symphonic composer. It's a very tough competitive career, and not that film isn't, it is as well, it's I was looking for different avenues of what can I do with this education and with this love of music. And I think media composing, whether it was for film, television, advertising, any kind of drama or even the theater was appealing. I was looking for ways to get the music out into the world that wasn't necessarily traditional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.podtrac.com\/pts\/redirect.mp3\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/ADV2082470064.mp3\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

Then I filed that away and never really thought about it until I saw the ad in the paper for the film music course at the Australian Film, Television and Radio school. I looked at it and sai \"wow, maybe I can give this a go?\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So you graduated from high school and then started then did this course?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

No, I graduated from high school and then I actually did four years of an honors degree in classical formal composition music education at the time, at the university. So I was studying with a couple of Australia's most acclaimed concert composers. One of them has unfortunately passed now, but I went for them and particularly to study with them. And came out of it with this very rigid and formal training, which I'm really proud to have. But at the same time, I still wanna know some practical elements. Like what can I do with it now? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Stream<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Were you thinking at that point, oh, I'm gonna do symphony, that kind of a thing?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I knew that I didn't really want to be exclusively a symphonic composer. It's a very tough competitive career, and not that film isn't, it is as well, it's I was looking for different avenues of what can I do with this education and with this love of music. And I think media composing, whether it was for film, television, advertising, any kind of drama or even the theater was appealing. I was looking for ways to get the music out into the world that wasn't necessarily traditional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

I know, I was always into film. I never really considered composing for film. I do recall that I went to see a revival of Star Wars<\/em> with my dad, and this is just as I was starting the band auditions, and we walked out of it, and he said to me \"what'd you think of the music? Wasn't that cool?\" And I agreed and he said \"you could do that one day.\"<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then I filed that away and never really thought about it until I saw the ad in the paper for the film music course at the Australian Film, Television and Radio school. I looked at it and sai \"wow, maybe I can give this a go?\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So you graduated from high school and then started then did this course?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

No, I graduated from high school and then I actually did four years of an honors degree in classical formal composition music education at the time, at the university. So I was studying with a couple of Australia's most acclaimed concert composers. One of them has unfortunately passed now, but I went for them and particularly to study with them. And came out of it with this very rigid and formal training, which I'm really proud to have. But at the same time, I still wanna know some practical elements. Like what can I do with it now? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Stream<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Were you thinking at that point, oh, I'm gonna do symphony, that kind of a thing?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I knew that I didn't really want to be exclusively a symphonic composer. It's a very tough competitive career, and not that film isn't, it is as well, it's I was looking for different avenues of what can I do with this education and with this love of music. And I think media composing, whether it was for film, television, advertising, any kind of drama or even the theater was appealing. I was looking for ways to get the music out into the world that wasn't necessarily traditional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

Did you have favorite composers that you particularly said you weren't that into film as a young age, but did you have composers that you loved? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I know, I was always into film. I never really considered composing for film. I do recall that I went to see a revival of Star Wars<\/em> with my dad, and this is just as I was starting the band auditions, and we walked out of it, and he said to me \"what'd you think of the music? Wasn't that cool?\" And I agreed and he said \"you could do that one day.\"<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then I filed that away and never really thought about it until I saw the ad in the paper for the film music course at the Australian Film, Television and Radio school. I looked at it and sai \"wow, maybe I can give this a go?\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So you graduated from high school and then started then did this course?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

No, I graduated from high school and then I actually did four years of an honors degree in classical formal composition music education at the time, at the university. So I was studying with a couple of Australia's most acclaimed concert composers. One of them has unfortunately passed now, but I went for them and particularly to study with them. And came out of it with this very rigid and formal training, which I'm really proud to have. But at the same time, I still wanna know some practical elements. Like what can I do with it now? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Stream<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Were you thinking at that point, oh, I'm gonna do symphony, that kind of a thing?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I knew that I didn't really want to be exclusively a symphonic composer. It's a very tough competitive career, and not that film isn't, it is as well, it's I was looking for different avenues of what can I do with this education and with this love of music. And I think media composing, whether it was for film, television, advertising, any kind of drama or even the theater was appealing. I was looking for ways to get the music out into the world that wasn't necessarily traditional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

And I don't know what compelled me. I still have no idea. If I think back to it, it's like, why did I wanna write something? It's just such an odd thing to do, but I did. And the rest is history, but I didn't really get drawn to film particularly until later when I went to the Australian film, television and radio school. And that's where, you know, 'cause I had just finished up a formal composition and music degree. And then, I was unsatisfied with that, and I went to film school and met all these fantastic directors and producers and writers and cinematographers. And I was like, nah, this is where I wanna be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Did you have favorite composers that you particularly said you weren't that into film as a young age, but did you have composers that you loved? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I know, I was always into film. I never really considered composing for film. I do recall that I went to see a revival of Star Wars<\/em> with my dad, and this is just as I was starting the band auditions, and we walked out of it, and he said to me \"what'd you think of the music? Wasn't that cool?\" And I agreed and he said \"you could do that one day.\"<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then I filed that away and never really thought about it until I saw the ad in the paper for the film music course at the Australian Film, Television and Radio school. I looked at it and sai \"wow, maybe I can give this a go?\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So you graduated from high school and then started then did this course?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

No, I graduated from high school and then I actually did four years of an honors degree in classical formal composition music education at the time, at the university. So I was studying with a couple of Australia's most acclaimed concert composers. One of them has unfortunately passed now, but I went for them and particularly to study with them. And came out of it with this very rigid and formal training, which I'm really proud to have. But at the same time, I still wanna know some practical elements. Like what can I do with it now? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Stream<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Were you thinking at that point, oh, I'm gonna do symphony, that kind of a thing?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I knew that I didn't really want to be exclusively a symphonic composer. It's a very tough competitive career, and not that film isn't, it is as well, it's I was looking for different avenues of what can I do with this education and with this love of music. And I think media composing, whether it was for film, television, advertising, any kind of drama or even the theater was appealing. I was looking for ways to get the music out into the world that wasn't necessarily traditional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

I started playing clarinet when I was like seven-years-old and then I taught myself the piano when I was nine. Then I started writing, like when I was probably about 12 or 13, I came home from music class one day and wanted to write a piece for all the instruments in my music, elective class at high school.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I don't know what compelled me. I still have no idea. If I think back to it, it's like, why did I wanna write something? It's just such an odd thing to do, but I did. And the rest is history, but I didn't really get drawn to film particularly until later when I went to the Australian film, television and radio school. And that's where, you know, 'cause I had just finished up a formal composition and music degree. And then, I was unsatisfied with that, and I went to film school and met all these fantastic directors and producers and writers and cinematographers. And I was like, nah, this is where I wanna be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Did you have favorite composers that you particularly said you weren't that into film as a young age, but did you have composers that you loved? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I know, I was always into film. I never really considered composing for film. I do recall that I went to see a revival of Star Wars<\/em> with my dad, and this is just as I was starting the band auditions, and we walked out of it, and he said to me \"what'd you think of the music? Wasn't that cool?\" And I agreed and he said \"you could do that one day.\"<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then I filed that away and never really thought about it until I saw the ad in the paper for the film music course at the Australian Film, Television and Radio school. I looked at it and sai \"wow, maybe I can give this a go?\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So you graduated from high school and then started then did this course?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

No, I graduated from high school and then I actually did four years of an honors degree in classical formal composition music education at the time, at the university. So I was studying with a couple of Australia's most acclaimed concert composers. One of them has unfortunately passed now, but I went for them and particularly to study with them. And came out of it with this very rigid and formal training, which I'm really proud to have. But at the same time, I still wanna know some practical elements. Like what can I do with it now? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Stream<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Were you thinking at that point, oh, I'm gonna do symphony, that kind of a thing?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I knew that I didn't really want to be exclusively a symphonic composer. It's a very tough competitive career, and not that film isn't, it is as well, it's I was looking for different avenues of what can I do with this education and with this love of music. And I think media composing, whether it was for film, television, advertising, any kind of drama or even the theater was appealing. I was looking for ways to get the music out into the world that wasn't necessarily traditional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\n

Michael how did you get started on becoming a composer? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started playing clarinet when I was like seven-years-old and then I taught myself the piano when I was nine. Then I started writing, like when I was probably about 12 or 13, I came home from music class one day and wanted to write a piece for all the instruments in my music, elective class at high school.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I don't know what compelled me. I still have no idea. If I think back to it, it's like, why did I wanna write something? It's just such an odd thing to do, but I did. And the rest is history, but I didn't really get drawn to film particularly until later when I went to the Australian film, television and radio school. And that's where, you know, 'cause I had just finished up a formal composition and music degree. And then, I was unsatisfied with that, and I went to film school and met all these fantastic directors and producers and writers and cinematographers. And I was like, nah, this is where I wanna be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Did you have favorite composers that you particularly said you weren't that into film as a young age, but did you have composers that you loved? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I know, I was always into film. I never really considered composing for film. I do recall that I went to see a revival of Star Wars<\/em> with my dad, and this is just as I was starting the band auditions, and we walked out of it, and he said to me \"what'd you think of the music? Wasn't that cool?\" And I agreed and he said \"you could do that one day.\"<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then I filed that away and never really thought about it until I saw the ad in the paper for the film music course at the Australian Film, Television and Radio school. I looked at it and sai \"wow, maybe I can give this a go?\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So you graduated from high school and then started then did this course?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

No, I graduated from high school and then I actually did four years of an honors degree in classical formal composition music education at the time, at the university. So I was studying with a couple of Australia's most acclaimed concert composers. One of them has unfortunately passed now, but I went for them and particularly to study with them. And came out of it with this very rigid and formal training, which I'm really proud to have. But at the same time, I still wanna know some practical elements. Like what can I do with it now? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Stream<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Were you thinking at that point, oh, I'm gonna do symphony, that kind of a thing?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I knew that I didn't really want to be exclusively a symphonic composer. It's a very tough competitive career, and not that film isn't, it is as well, it's I was looking for different avenues of what can I do with this education and with this love of music. And I think media composing, whether it was for film, television, advertising, any kind of drama or even the theater was appealing. I was looking for ways to get the music out into the world that wasn't necessarily traditional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Michael how did you get started on becoming a composer? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started playing clarinet when I was like seven-years-old and then I taught myself the piano when I was nine. Then I started writing, like when I was probably about 12 or 13, I came home from music class one day and wanted to write a piece for all the instruments in my music, elective class at high school.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I don't know what compelled me. I still have no idea. If I think back to it, it's like, why did I wanna write something? It's just such an odd thing to do, but I did. And the rest is history, but I didn't really get drawn to film particularly until later when I went to the Australian film, television and radio school. And that's where, you know, 'cause I had just finished up a formal composition and music degree. And then, I was unsatisfied with that, and I went to film school and met all these fantastic directors and producers and writers and cinematographers. And I was like, nah, this is where I wanna be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Did you have favorite composers that you particularly said you weren't that into film as a young age, but did you have composers that you loved? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I know, I was always into film. I never really considered composing for film. I do recall that I went to see a revival of Star Wars<\/em> with my dad, and this is just as I was starting the band auditions, and we walked out of it, and he said to me \"what'd you think of the music? Wasn't that cool?\" And I agreed and he said \"you could do that one day.\"<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then I filed that away and never really thought about it until I saw the ad in the paper for the film music course at the Australian Film, Television and Radio school. I looked at it and sai \"wow, maybe I can give this a go?\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So you graduated from high school and then started then did this course?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

No, I graduated from high school and then I actually did four years of an honors degree in classical formal composition music education at the time, at the university. So I was studying with a couple of Australia's most acclaimed concert composers. One of them has unfortunately passed now, but I went for them and particularly to study with them. And came out of it with this very rigid and formal training, which I'm really proud to have. But at the same time, I still wanna know some practical elements. Like what can I do with it now? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Stream<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Were you thinking at that point, oh, I'm gonna do symphony, that kind of a thing?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I knew that I didn't really want to be exclusively a symphonic composer. It's a very tough competitive career, and not that film isn't, it is as well, it's I was looking for different avenues of what can I do with this education and with this love of music. And I think media composing, whether it was for film, television, advertising, any kind of drama or even the theater was appealing. I was looking for ways to get the music out into the world that wasn't necessarily traditional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"Michael<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0ylr70WNAe8\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Today at rotoscopers we are delighted to talk with composer Michael Yezerski who's latest work can be seen on the new series for Netflix: Ivy + Bean<\/em>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Michael how did you get started on becoming a composer? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started playing clarinet when I was like seven-years-old and then I taught myself the piano when I was nine. Then I started writing, like when I was probably about 12 or 13, I came home from music class one day and wanted to write a piece for all the instruments in my music, elective class at high school.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I don't know what compelled me. I still have no idea. If I think back to it, it's like, why did I wanna write something? It's just such an odd thing to do, but I did. And the rest is history, but I didn't really get drawn to film particularly until later when I went to the Australian film, television and radio school. And that's where, you know, 'cause I had just finished up a formal composition and music degree. And then, I was unsatisfied with that, and I went to film school and met all these fantastic directors and producers and writers and cinematographers. And I was like, nah, this is where I wanna be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Did you have favorite composers that you particularly said you weren't that into film as a young age, but did you have composers that you loved? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I know, I was always into film. I never really considered composing for film. I do recall that I went to see a revival of Star Wars<\/em> with my dad, and this is just as I was starting the band auditions, and we walked out of it, and he said to me \"what'd you think of the music? Wasn't that cool?\" And I agreed and he said \"you could do that one day.\"<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then I filed that away and never really thought about it until I saw the ad in the paper for the film music course at the Australian Film, Television and Radio school. I looked at it and sai \"wow, maybe I can give this a go?\".<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So you graduated from high school and then started then did this course?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

No, I graduated from high school and then I actually did four years of an honors degree in classical formal composition music education at the time, at the university. So I was studying with a couple of Australia's most acclaimed concert composers. One of them has unfortunately passed now, but I went for them and particularly to study with them. And came out of it with this very rigid and formal training, which I'm really proud to have. But at the same time, I still wanna know some practical elements. Like what can I do with it now? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Were you thinking at that point, oh, I'm gonna do symphony, that kind of a thing?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I knew that I didn't really want to be exclusively a symphonic composer. It's a very tough competitive career, and not that film isn't, it is as well, it's I was looking for different avenues of what can I do with this education and with this love of music. And I think media composing, whether it was for film, television, advertising, any kind of drama or even the theater was appealing. I was looking for ways to get the music out into the world that wasn't necessarily traditional.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it harder to write for episodic television than for film or they both have their own challenges?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

They both have their own challenges. I think it's the projects themselves that vary. So you can have a film that, it's very easy, you just want some sort of ambient type sounds and nothing that's really gonna intrude because the source music is doing all the heavy lifting in the film. In contrast, you might have a television series where you're having to write in multiple genres, like Full Orchestra kind on a very, very tight timeline. On the other hand, like this project, Ivy + Bean<\/em>, was three different films with three different kind of musical genres all recorded within the space of six months. Yeah, this film is constantly challenging, but that's why I love it 'cause I get bored otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you're doing an episodic show, do you just hear from the director every week, \"Okay, this is what we need. These are the beats that we need\" or how does that all kind of work?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On an episodic show, most of the time you're actually working with someone called the show runner. And so they're sort of above the director...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So a director might say, \"Hey, I would like this here and this here\" and the show runner, not necessarily may disagree, but may sort of say, \"well, actually I think this is a thematic moment because of something that happens in episode six. And we're only in episode two, so maybe we could set up a theme here for the... \" they just keep an eye on the overall arc of the series. So of course, with the feature film or with the series of feature films, the director is the creative lead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Ivy + Bean<\/em>, this seems like it has a young whimsical energy. What was that like to write for it?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I've been working with the director Elissa Down since her very, very first film in 2007, I'm showing my age now. And we have this kind of shorthand, I know her humor, I know what she finds funny. I know what kind of music she likes. She likes really, really catchy melodies. She likes sort of fun up beat energy music that doesn't take itself too seriously, but can get really emotional when it needs to. And knowing that it sort of gives me a really great head start with any project that we work together on, because I already know the type of music that you're gonna be attracted to. But so, you're still trying to find the language for every single project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Like the last film that we did, there were older characters, there were teenage girls, they were in their senior year of high school. So this is a lot younger. And so we were looking for a language that you could draw really strong themes out for each character, but had that sense of fun, danger, excitement, but also was able to move. So the first movie has more of an adventurous kind of sound. Second movie has more of a ghost, like almost supernatural sound. And the third one, leans into ballet and actually quotes from some famous ballets along the way. But the idea was to vary the sounds of the score, but like you say, keep it whimsical and fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Is it hard sometimes to know what instrument to use for different parts of the composition?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's a really good question. Especially when you've got an orchestra, and you've got so many instruments to choose from, what I find that helped, is just working with the pictures because you get the movie to look at and watch multiple times, and nowadays we have this incredible software that we can write, we can sort of pretend to play any instrument at all and put the sound up against the screen. And in fact, I'm a clarinet player, but I don't really like using clarinet in my scores. I tend to avoid it, but on these films, these characters just ate up the clarinet, they love the clarinet. So I was like \"more clarinet\" and every time Elissa was like, \"what's that instrument?\" I'm like, \"it's the clarinet\" she's like, \"let's have more of that\", clarinet everywhere on these scores, which is very cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maybe because it's tapping into your childhood and that's what you played it as a kid?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You know what? There's probably something in that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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What advice would you give to people who wanna get into film music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's also a hard question, 'cause things have changed so much nowadays. But it's a couple of things: I would say, learn as much as you can about music, don't go straight into composing for film. It's really valuable to take the path that I did to study formal composition and not even think about media composing for a while. Learn as much as you can, go as deep into music history as you can, learn as much about contemporary music as you can, orchestration all those things first, before you even tackle film music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I meet a lot of composers who have just gone into it too early. And remember that this is a socially driven career and you need friends and you need colleagues, who are working with you. You need to seek out young directors and writers and producers and cinematographers, and you need to work with them and you need to learn how to work with them, because the thing is, it is a collaborative medium at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That makes sense. We're really excited about the new series, the Ivy + Bean<\/em>, so thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us, and it was great. Great, getting to meet you.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeah. You too. Thanks so much, Rachel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Make sure you check out Ivy + Bean <\/em>on Netflix and you can follow Michael on social media here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the entire interview:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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One of the most memorable pieces of animation in 2021 was the animated short Us Again. <\/em>This beautiful film told the story of a grumpy old man named Art who gets a second chance to be young and dance again with his wife Dot. Recently we had the chance to talk with director and animator Zach Parrish about the short and his career in animation at Disney and Netflix:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Why don't you introduce yourself and how you got started as an animator<\/strong>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My name's Zach Parrish. I'm currently an animation director at Netflix. I got into the animation industry in 2007. I went to school at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, Georgia, and then I did online schooling at Animation Mentor while I was working in the visual effects industry,<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I started on Alvin and the Chipmunks<\/em> and then went to Sony Imageworks and worked on Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs<\/em>, and then eventually found myself at Disney in 2010. I was at Disney for 11 1\/2 years as an animator, animation supervisor, head of animation, workflow supervisor and director. I directed a short called Puddles<\/em>, and then I most recently directed Us Again,<\/em> which was one of the last things that I did before making the switch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You're now working for Netflix, and I'm so excited about Netflix. So many of things like Arcane<\/em> was so amazing, and seeing their work with Aardman, I'm super thrilled about. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

it's an opportunity for so many people to get to tell their stories, and there's been a shift, and I don't know if it's the pandemic or if it's streaming services or what it is, but there's an appetite for more and for different and for specific and for personal and having all of these different platforms who are all trying to put those voices out there. It's amazing, because then you get something like Arcane<\/em> that might not have existed five years ago 'cause it's such a specific audience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That's the kind of interesting cool thing about Netflix, is there is no brand at all. It's anything and everything, and it will find its audience, and so it becomes these unique things that blow up. Arcane<\/em> is huge and is, for good reason: It's incredible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So how did you get the idea for Us Again<\/em>? How<\/strong> did it come to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So it was back in probably 2017-ish. I was into my 30s, and I was starting to feel the aches and pains that go along with crossing that threshold.... I had this desire to want to be young again, (even though I was only in my 30s) but I had this fairly cynical view on it. However, my Mom was in her 60s, and she would talk about all these things that she was gonna do when she grows up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And I had this realization that by my definition, I'm old, and by her definition, she's young, and that totally got me thinking and kind of broke my brain as far as, what is age? Truth is it's all relative, it's all a state of mind, and that kind of led to these conversations that I always have with my wife about being present and living in the moment and appreciating where you are and the people around you...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So that's what I pitched: this idea of this elderly couple who have this one magical night and this world of dance...<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LacJX-1Zjz0\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

The music and the choreography was so key and added so much to the short. How did that all come together, both the choreography and the music?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was hard.... Even in my original pitch, I had a playlist of music that I\u2026 I knew I wanted to be in the soul funk range of music, because I wanted something that the characters I imagined in my head would have listened to, but also something that felt like it could be on the radio today. I wanted everything in the film to have a then and now kind of feel to it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then I was a huge fan of Keone & Mari, who ended up being our choreographers. I had been following them on social media for years, and I was talking to a friend, and he reminded me of this video of them dancing as an older couple to Bob Marley, to a Bob Marley song. And so I use that and a bunch of clips of Keone & Mari dancing and doing different performances as examples of how we could build a world where they have conversations with dance. It was really hard because it's a chicken and egg problem. You never have any of it until you had all of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=RFp11zynbwo\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

And so we would work a little bit on the story. Pinar would write, (Pinar Toprak was our composer, who was incredible). She would write themes and temp scores for the story artists and for Keone & Mari to try to imagine what this film's going to be. Keone & Mari would have some ideas for dance and things like that, which would maybe inspire the storyboard artist. Then Pinar did kind of a final pass at the music, and we had a final pass at the choreography, and then finally we could actually make the movie. Once we had the music, the choreography and the story, then all we had to do is make the movie. LOL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, one last question, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into animation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oh my gosh. Practice patience\u2026 What I tend to tell people when I talk to students or anything like that, is to not forget to live. It's sort of the purpose, it's sort of the message of the film, but I think it's also\u2026 It's something that I really needed to learn when I was going to school, I was so focused on, I need to learn Maya. I need to understand this animation principle. And I kinda closed out, I became so focused that I closed out the world and I didn't experience\u2026 And so much of what art is, film is is an interpretation, it's a view on the world. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting out experiencing, going to museums and drawing, and going to the park and watching people and movies and TV and observing life is key\u2026 It's always going to end up being useful. It's gonna be better for your soul, but it's also\u2026 It's gonna be that thing where you go to when you need inspiration. I remember this one time, I was at this park and I saw this couple and this guy did this thing, and it became a character-specific moment in my animation. So I think people can learn different packages of software, (and you have to learn how to do those things or to actually do a job), but I think in order to have a perspective as an artist experiencing life is probably the biggest secret.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thank you so much to Zach for talking with us. You can follow Zach on instagram<\/a> and on his website<\/a>. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

To listen to the full interview click here<\/a> or watch on youtube:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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