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		By: Aubren Lewis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aubren Lewis]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-32766&quot;&gt;Benjamin Boekelaar&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re right, I am channeling it wrong. I&#039;m channeling it to someone who thinks they&#039;re sympathetic and listen, but in the end refuse to acknowledge points of view. Why did you even comment on this article if you&#039;re just another racist? This article wasn&#039;t for the likes of you.

If your race abdolutely has everything to do with how you&#039;re reacting to me. You live in privilege and thus won&#039;t listen. If you had an Aboriginal version of Pocahontas, you would have no reason to give a shit about how it affected Aboriginals. You&#039;d think it was a nice story and carry on your merry way.

I&#039;m not sure what you intended, but what you wrote shifts from saying that I have psychological issues to America having psychological issues. (Which is ableist, since your using that as a put me down, but it&#039;s not like you&#039;d be sympathetic enough to actually listen to that statement.) 

I can assure you that I don&#039;t copy movies anymore than anyone else does. The only example I gave you of that was the Hunger Games, and everyone was doing that. Even employees at places to buy/build weaponry confirmed that they had an influx of customers. Everyone realized just how vulnerable they were to other people. So they sought to find a way to defend themselves.

Perhaps Australians didn&#039;t have that. I figure with all those venous animals you&#039;ve probably already accepted your vulnerability in a way coddled Americans don&#039;t  (didn&#039;t?).

Anyways, my only point in referencing HG was to show an example of how influential movies can be.

You have insisted multiple times that you only posted it to show &quot;how being Australian affected my view of it&quot;. You then go on to say that your nationality/race has nothing to do with your views, or at least you empathy. But then you go on to imply that other people&#039;s criticisms are wrong about the movie. Therefore you, a white Australian, has the right idea about what this film is, which is a cutesy famtasy. You rejected other peoples&#039; opinions on the film 2 years ago, and you continue to do so now. You are contradicting yourself. You have a self-image of yourself as a caring, compassionate person; but your actions indicate otherwise. At least in the area of race portrayal in films you happen to like.


 If you&#039;re going to be a racist, then at least own up to it. If you don&#039;t want to be a racist, then it is your job to listen to the critiques open-mindedly. If you choose the latter, I leave this link: http://www.hanksville.org/storytellers/pewe/writing/Pocahontas.html

There&#039;s nothing more to really say. Bye.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-32766">Benjamin Boekelaar</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, I am channeling it wrong. I&#8217;m channeling it to someone who thinks they&#8217;re sympathetic and listen, but in the end refuse to acknowledge points of view. Why did you even comment on this article if you&#8217;re just another racist? This article wasn&#8217;t for the likes of you.</p>
<p>If your race abdolutely has everything to do with how you&#8217;re reacting to me. You live in privilege and thus won&#8217;t listen. If you had an Aboriginal version of Pocahontas, you would have no reason to give a shit about how it affected Aboriginals. You&#8217;d think it was a nice story and carry on your merry way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you intended, but what you wrote shifts from saying that I have psychological issues to America having psychological issues. (Which is ableist, since your using that as a put me down, but it&#8217;s not like you&#8217;d be sympathetic enough to actually listen to that statement.) </p>
<p>I can assure you that I don&#8217;t copy movies anymore than anyone else does. The only example I gave you of that was the Hunger Games, and everyone was doing that. Even employees at places to buy/build weaponry confirmed that they had an influx of customers. Everyone realized just how vulnerable they were to other people. So they sought to find a way to defend themselves.</p>
<p>Perhaps Australians didn&#8217;t have that. I figure with all those venous animals you&#8217;ve probably already accepted your vulnerability in a way coddled Americans don&#8217;t  (didn&#8217;t?).</p>
<p>Anyways, my only point in referencing HG was to show an example of how influential movies can be.</p>
<p>You have insisted multiple times that you only posted it to show &#8220;how being Australian affected my view of it&#8221;. You then go on to say that your nationality/race has nothing to do with your views, or at least you empathy. But then you go on to imply that other people&#8217;s criticisms are wrong about the movie. Therefore you, a white Australian, has the right idea about what this film is, which is a cutesy famtasy. You rejected other peoples&#8217; opinions on the film 2 years ago, and you continue to do so now. You are contradicting yourself. You have a self-image of yourself as a caring, compassionate person; but your actions indicate otherwise. At least in the area of race portrayal in films you happen to like.</p>
<p> If you&#8217;re going to be a racist, then at least own up to it. If you don&#8217;t want to be a racist, then it is your job to listen to the critiques open-mindedly. If you choose the latter, I leave this link: <a href="http://www.hanksville.org/storytellers/pewe/writing/Pocahontas.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.hanksville.org/storytellers/pewe/writing/Pocahontas.html</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing more to really say. Bye.</p>
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		By: Benjamin Boekelaar		</title>
		<link>https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-32766</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2017 07:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-32765&quot;&gt;Aubren Lewis&lt;/a&gt;.

Mate my race and nationality has nothing to do with my capacity for empathy.

And I am not talking about the effects of this film in any way apart from its merits as being considered a good film.

Obviously you have some issues you can&#039;t get past and have a tendency to imitate things you see on film.

Go and see a trained professional and talk about it. I can see your passion but you&#039;re chanelling it wrong. 

And I have no idea what the Hunger Games have to do with this at all but I can say it didn&#039;t bring on a wave of people signing up for archery and knife throwing. But it wouldn&#039;t given the cultural differences between our countries. Amercans are comparatively extremists.

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<p>Mate my race and nationality has nothing to do with my capacity for empathy.</p>
<p>And I am not talking about the effects of this film in any way apart from its merits as being considered a good film.</p>
<p>Obviously you have some issues you can&#8217;t get past and have a tendency to imitate things you see on film.</p>
<p>Go and see a trained professional and talk about it. I can see your passion but you&#8217;re chanelling it wrong. </p>
<p>And I have no idea what the Hunger Games have to do with this at all but I can say it didn&#8217;t bring on a wave of people signing up for archery and knife throwing. But it wouldn&#8217;t given the cultural differences between our countries. Amercans are comparatively extremists.</p>
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		By: Aubren Lewis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2017 06:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-32764&quot;&gt;Benjamin Boekelaar&lt;/a&gt;.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/likeawhisper.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/if-you-win-at-this-bingo-you-get-a-cookie/amp/

The link is mostly for the first bingo card; I suggest you look at it closely. The article has some merit, though.

&quot;Harm me&quot;? You think getting extra classes is harming me? There are ways that Pocahontas has harmed me, but it&#039;s certainly not from that. That, and the fact that you ignored my Hunger Games question suggests that you didn&#039;t even read what I wrote.

Telling me to complain about the company in general instead of on a case-by-case basis is a joke. That&#039;ll get you nowhere; you have to complain about both. The next time you watch a bad film, remember: don&#039;t complain about it; complain about the company in general. Even if they produce good movies without the annoying feature, too. 


As a presumably white Australian, I don&#039;t expect you to know America&#039;s history. The issue here is you think the focus is &quot;historical inaccuracy&quot; rather than &quot;encouraging racism&quot;. (Misinformation is an after thought.)

I would send you links to explain how Pocahontas increased racism to Native Americans, but it sounds like you saw them years ago and chose to ignore them. You can look them up yourself, if you decide to understand why people are critical of it. If you choose instead to remain baffled and see those people as easily dismissable (even though a large portion of those are by Native who had to deal with the brunt of what Disney&#039;s Pocahontas did.)

Also, saying &quot;other films do it too&quot; doesn&#039;t help at all. What&#039;s the most annoying, common attribute you see often in Hollywood films? Think about it for a moment. ...Well, how was it? Since it&#039;s common, are you okay with it now? No. It&#039;s frequency probably makes it that much more irritating. Obviously you want it gone. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-32764">Benjamin Boekelaar</a>.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.google.com/amp/s/likeawhisper.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/if-you-win-at-this-bingo-you-get-a-cookie/amp/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.google.com/amp/s/likeawhisper.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/if-you-win-at-this-bingo-you-get-a-cookie/amp/</a></p>
<p>The link is mostly for the first bingo card; I suggest you look at it closely. The article has some merit, though.</p>
<p>&#8220;Harm me&#8221;? You think getting extra classes is harming me? There are ways that Pocahontas has harmed me, but it&#8217;s certainly not from that. That, and the fact that you ignored my Hunger Games question suggests that you didn&#8217;t even read what I wrote.</p>
<p>Telling me to complain about the company in general instead of on a case-by-case basis is a joke. That&#8217;ll get you nowhere; you have to complain about both. The next time you watch a bad film, remember: don&#8217;t complain about it; complain about the company in general. Even if they produce good movies without the annoying feature, too. </p>
<p>As a presumably white Australian, I don&#8217;t expect you to know America&#8217;s history. The issue here is you think the focus is &#8220;historical inaccuracy&#8221; rather than &#8220;encouraging racism&#8221;. (Misinformation is an after thought.)</p>
<p>I would send you links to explain how Pocahontas increased racism to Native Americans, but it sounds like you saw them years ago and chose to ignore them. You can look them up yourself, if you decide to understand why people are critical of it. If you choose instead to remain baffled and see those people as easily dismissable (even though a large portion of those are by Native who had to deal with the brunt of what Disney&#8217;s Pocahontas did.)</p>
<p>Also, saying &#8220;other films do it too&#8221; doesn&#8217;t help at all. What&#8217;s the most annoying, common attribute you see often in Hollywood films? Think about it for a moment. &#8230;Well, how was it? Since it&#8217;s common, are you okay with it now? No. It&#8217;s frequency probably makes it that much more irritating. Obviously you want it gone. </p>
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		By: Benjamin Boekelaar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin Boekelaar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2017 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-32752&quot;&gt;Aubren Lewis&lt;/a&gt;.

The film was meant to entertain not educate. It&#039;s unfortunate that Disney taking a historical figure and changing the facts has caused so much harm for you. I doubt this was their intention.

I never asked why people were complaining about historical inaccuracy I simply stated that as someone from a different country I was never aware that it was historically inaccurate. Judging the film simply for its art I believe it doesn&#039;t stand out from the other Disney films of that era and is as much their equal.

I can&#039;t speak to the mindset of American, or Australians or anyone else and can only say that for myself I have never had to separate fact from fiction or reality from fantasy when it comes to the medium of film. I can sympathise with the pain it causes to see a historical event modified for entertainment but this is hardly the first time a film has done this.

Any issue should be with the industry as a whole and not just with the film that upsets you specifically.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-32752">Aubren Lewis</a>.</p>
<p>The film was meant to entertain not educate. It&#8217;s unfortunate that Disney taking a historical figure and changing the facts has caused so much harm for you. I doubt this was their intention.</p>
<p>I never asked why people were complaining about historical inaccuracy I simply stated that as someone from a different country I was never aware that it was historically inaccurate. Judging the film simply for its art I believe it doesn&#8217;t stand out from the other Disney films of that era and is as much their equal.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak to the mindset of American, or Australians or anyone else and can only say that for myself I have never had to separate fact from fiction or reality from fantasy when it comes to the medium of film. I can sympathise with the pain it causes to see a historical event modified for entertainment but this is hardly the first time a film has done this.</p>
<p>Any issue should be with the industry as a whole and not just with the film that upsets you specifically.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aubren Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2017 04:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-29352&quot;&gt;Benjamin Boekelaar&lt;/a&gt;.

You know I actually had to be taught in school that the movies were wrong. When the second movie came out, my elementary school took it upon themselves to beat it into our brains that the movie was wrong. We literally had a special class in the library where the librarian taught us the real story. I think we had to do work on it, too. They made sure we knew. And this was a mostly white school in Kansas (middle of nowhere) that did this, not on a Reservation or anything.


I&#039;m so glad you got to enjoy a fictionalized version of history, but it created more problems with both the way Native Americans would be treated in the future and in teaching history. Natives shouldn&#039;t have to work to undue what Disney did. Historians shouldn&#039;t have to work to undo what Disney did. Schoolboards shouldn&#039;t hsve to either.  But they did. Disney was irresponsible and they had to fix it.

The reason why I knew you weren&#039;t Aboriginal is because if you were, you&#039;d understand. You&#039;d understand that how media portrays your people &#038; history has consequences. Since you think &quot;why are people complaining about historical inaccuracy! It&#039;s just a movie, it&#039;s not harmful!&quot; indicates that you&#039;re not in a position where you&#039;d understand the impact a popular film has on society.

Did Australia have the same mindset America did when the Hunger Games came out? Literally everyone, especially adults, were trying their hands to see which weapons they could defend themselves with. People started archery classes. I tried to learn how to throw a knife. That&#039;s the kind of impact a film can have.

And when the issue is race and history, that means a lot of BS is going to happen that wouldn&#039;t otherwise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-29352">Benjamin Boekelaar</a>.</p>
<p>You know I actually had to be taught in school that the movies were wrong. When the second movie came out, my elementary school took it upon themselves to beat it into our brains that the movie was wrong. We literally had a special class in the library where the librarian taught us the real story. I think we had to do work on it, too. They made sure we knew. And this was a mostly white school in Kansas (middle of nowhere) that did this, not on a Reservation or anything.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so glad you got to enjoy a fictionalized version of history, but it created more problems with both the way Native Americans would be treated in the future and in teaching history. Natives shouldn&#8217;t have to work to undue what Disney did. Historians shouldn&#8217;t have to work to undo what Disney did. Schoolboards shouldn&#8217;t hsve to either.  But they did. Disney was irresponsible and they had to fix it.</p>
<p>The reason why I knew you weren&#8217;t Aboriginal is because if you were, you&#8217;d understand. You&#8217;d understand that how media portrays your people &amp; history has consequences. Since you think &#8220;why are people complaining about historical inaccuracy! It&#8217;s just a movie, it&#8217;s not harmful!&#8221; indicates that you&#8217;re not in a position where you&#8217;d understand the impact a popular film has on society.</p>
<p>Did Australia have the same mindset America did when the Hunger Games came out? Literally everyone, especially adults, were trying their hands to see which weapons they could defend themselves with. People started archery classes. I tried to learn how to throw a knife. That&#8217;s the kind of impact a film can have.</p>
<p>And when the issue is race and history, that means a lot of BS is going to happen that wouldn&#8217;t otherwise.</p>
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		By: Sieben Stern		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2017 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not particularly a big fan of either movie, but I wish that the story in Anastasia had been less cartoonish to match the more realistic animation.  There was something there, but it didn&#039;t quite hit the mark.  Pocahontas on the other hand was just a hot mess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not particularly a big fan of either movie, but I wish that the story in Anastasia had been less cartoonish to match the more realistic animation.  There was something there, but it didn&#8217;t quite hit the mark.  Pocahontas on the other hand was just a hot mess.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2017 04:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-29097&quot;&gt;Aubren Lewis&lt;/a&gt;.

This is close to my thoughts - Pocahontas rewrites the history of people who were basically eradicated and overwhelmed by europeans, with little agency to this day, while Anastasia just princessifies the story of one rich girl and her powerful family.]]></description>
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<p>This is close to my thoughts &#8211; Pocahontas rewrites the history of people who were basically eradicated and overwhelmed by europeans, with little agency to this day, while Anastasia just princessifies the story of one rich girl and her powerful family.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin Boekelaar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2016 06:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-29096&quot;&gt;Aubren Lewis&lt;/a&gt;.

And if I were I wouldn&#039;t enjoy a non-factual tale that deals with an indiginous people? I love fictional stories about caucasians...]]></description>
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<p>And if I were I wouldn&#8217;t enjoy a non-factual tale that deals with an indiginous people? I love fictional stories about caucasians&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2016 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The reason why Pocahontas garnered more criticism then Anastasia: Pocahontas&#039; rewrite affects an entire race; Anastasia&#039;s affects a single family.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why Pocahontas garnered more criticism then Anastasia: Pocahontas&#8217; rewrite affects an entire race; Anastasia&#8217;s affects a single family.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-15491&quot;&gt;Benjamin Boekelaar&lt;/a&gt;.

I take it you&#039;re not an Aboriginal, then?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.rotoscopers.com/2015/03/01/battle-of-the-history-rewrites-pocahontas-vs-anastasia/#comment-15491">Benjamin Boekelaar</a>.</p>
<p>I take it you&#8217;re not an Aboriginal, then?</p>
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