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What We Learned From the 2017 D23 Expo: ‘Frozen 2’ and ‘Ralph Breaks the Internet’

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JOHN LASSETER (CHIEF CREATIVE OFFICER, PIXAR AND WALT DISNEY ANIMATIONS STUDIOS)

For animation fans, one of the most anticipated parts of the D23 Expo is the presentation detailing the upcoming projects from Walt Disney Animation Studios and Pixar Animation Studios. Below, see a recap of everything we learned about the upcoming projects from Walt Disney Animation Studios:

Frozen

The Frozen section of the presentation kicked off with a new scene from the upcoming short Olaf’s Frozen Adventure. This short film, directed by Kevin Deters and Stevie Wermers, will run a total of 21 minutes and will be released in theaters with Pixar’s Coco this November.

The premise of the short is that Anna and Elsa throw a holiday party for everyone in their kingdom, only to find that everyone is too busy with their own family holiday traditions to stay and enjoy the party. When Olaf sees how sad Anna and Elsa are that they don’t have their own family holiday traditions, he sets out to find some for them.

The short will include new songs written by Elyssa Samsel and Kate Anderson.

The Frozen news continued, turning from Olaf’s Frozen Adventure to Frozen 2. John Lasseter started off by saying that Frozen 2 will likely not be the final tile of the sequel (although he did not reveal what the new movie’s official title will be).

KRISTEN BELL, JOHN LASSETER (CHIEF CREATIVE OFFICER, PIXAR AND WALT DISNEY ANIMATIONS STUDIOS)

Frozen 2, directed by Chris Buck and Jennifer Lee, will open November 27, 2019. While no animation, art, or plot details were revealed at the presentation, Disney did share a video, which featured the directors, along with producer Peter Del Vecho, traveling in Norway and Iceland. As part of their research for the new film, the team is seen entering a giant volcano and sailing by a huge glacier. With so little new information released about the Frozen sequel, fans are left to wonder: will these elements come into play in the new film in some way?

Ralph Breaks the Internet: Wreck-It Ralph 2

Wreck-It Ralph 2 will open November 21, 2018 and is directed by Rich Moore and Phil Johnston. The Wreck-It Ralph segment of the presentation started off with a new teaser trailer, in which Ralph and Vanellope Von Schweetz leave the arcade and enter the Internet for the first time in search of a new part for Vanellope’s game, Sugar Rush, which has broken down.

Following the teaser trailer was a clip from the new movie. For me, this clip was the most unexpected announcement of the entre presentation. The clip showed Vanellope and Ralph traveling the Internet with one of the sequel’s new characters, Yesss (voiced by Taraji P. Henson). They end up stopping at a very familiar website, OhMyDisney.com. Here, Vanellope meets Every. Disney. Princess. Ever.

Each one of the official Disney princesses is featured in this scene, from Snow White to Moana. Even more surprising, almost every princess is voiced by her original voice actress. Jodi Benson, Paige O’Hara, Linda Larkin, Irene Bedard, Ming-Na Wen, Anika Noni Rose, Mandy Moore, Kelly Macdonald, Kristen Bell, Idina Menzel, and Auli’I Cravalho will all reprise their roles for the film.

While I love Disney princesses, my initial reaction to this news is that I don’t love them in Wreck-it Ralph. I’ve never seen so many different Disney movies mixed together and the result feels very non-cohesive. Overall, the presentation left me with very mixed feelings about Wreck-It Ralph 2.

What do you think about these announcements? Let us know in the comments!

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  • Yellow

    That’s disappointing there’s not much news on the Frozen sequel, but I guess that movie still has a while before it gets here.
    Sounds like there is at least a good reason for Ralph and Vanellope to go to the internet, though that scene you described could be concerning like you said. It could be really funny too though, since Vanellope is (technically sort of) a princess. Guess we’ll see how that plays out.

    • Manuel Orozco

      True about funny and seeing the modern princesses voiced again by their original actresses seems even more surreal. I’m more excited for Mandy, Kristin, Idina and Aull’i. But it was to my previous understanding Jodi Benson was going to voice a totally new character.

      • Hannah Wilkes

        They did not mention Jodi Benson voicing a new character during the presentation, but I guess it could be possible. She will most definitely be voicing Ariel in the movie though.

        • Manuel Orozco

          Well at least she is still involved with Disney nearly 30 years later so that could be better than her having less work.

  • Rachel Wagner

    Yeah with you on the Disney princess skit. It felt a little too shrekish for my taste

    • Manuel Orozco

      I don’t know what you mean by shrekish but I agree about the skit.

      • Rachel Wagner

        It felt a little bit like the kind of parody comedy you get in Shrek

        • Manuel Orozco

          Now I get what you’re saying. I say that it probably must go somewhere else.

        • Hannah Wilkes

          I completely agree – the jokes about Ariel singing too much, Merida being difficult to understand, Snow White being over dramatic, etc. really reminded me of Sherk humor.

          • Manuel Orozco

            That sounds so out of character especially on Snow White. Not why she’s my favorite Princess tied with Cinderella and Moana combined.

          • Rachel Wagner

            Oh good. Thought I was only one who felt that way

          • Dave 52

            I don’t see how them going for the more Shrek or LEGO Movie style of humor is a bad thing. They did that a little bit in Moana and I honestly wish they went full throttle with it. Hearing that they are doing this and pushing it more in this film makes me wonder of all the comedic possibilities they can come up with. If there is any studio who should have been taking the more “self aware approach” it is Disney. I am excited and curious to see how this scene plays out in person and from what I’ve read the lines that are thrown around take jabs at both Disney and Pixar made me chuckle a lot when I read them. I am also curious to see how they have taken the classic 2D Disney princess and translated them to CG.

          • Yellow

            Now that is interesting about the 2D to 3D conversion. I want to see how that was done.

          • Rachel Wagner

            I didnt like those moments in Moana and Zootopia. I guess I’m not much of a Shrek fan but even if I was we already have DreamWorks, Lego and Illumination doing those kind of comedies we don’t need them from Disney also. I wasn’t a big fan of the scene

          • Manuel Orozco

            Didn’t have much of a problem with Moana like I did a little with Zootopia.

          • dlizsehshus

            I guess you didnt like “Emperors New Groove” or “Who Framed Roger Rabbit” either since those films did parody humor also.

            And since when did Shrek became the only Animated Property to do parody humor?

            The medium has been doing parody humor since its infancy. Go watch any of the Warner Bros shorts from 40s. And yes Walt Disney also did parody humor if you watch any of the Disney shorts from the past.

            Fans really need to stop putting Disney on a pedestal. As if they are too good for this kind of humor. Since it obviously wasn’t beneath Walt. It just comes off snobbish.

          • Manuel Orozco

            Well in Zootopia it was a little unnecessary especially with the Let It Go joke. But it couldn’t ruin my enjoyment so easily.

    • Starcatcher07

      Do you visit Amy Webberson’s Pocket Princesses blog? If the Ralph Disney Princess scene(s) are anything like her comics then <3 <3

      • Hannah Wilkes

        I love Amy Mebberson’s Pocket Princess comics. I would be SHOCKED if her work was not used as reference material for this scene, because it mimics her comics VERY closely. All I could think while I was watching it was that it reminded me of her work.

        • Starcatcher07

          I think she was at D23, right? So wouldn’t be surprised if Pocket Princesses was indeed the inspiration. Heck, maybe they should have paid her and officially made these versions the “Disney Pocket Princesses” to distinguish them from the other appearances of the princesses.

      • Rachel Wagner

        Never heard of it and will have to check it out

  • Chinoiserie

    So no news on Gigantic? You would think it would be at the same time as these films. I am getting really worried about that film.

    • Manuel Orozco

      Won’t be until 2020 so most likely we will hear more at the 2019 D23.

    • Hannah Wilkes

      No, unfortunately Gigantic was not mentioned in the presentation at all.

      • Manuel Orozco

        But I wish because out of the two projects at Disney Animation that have the Lopezes as their respective songwriters, I’m more excited for Gigantic than I am with Frozen 2.

        • Yellow

          Were they confirmed to be working on Frozen 2?

          • Manuel Orozco

            Yes

  • Phoenix Wright

    Ever since they announced the awful name “Ralph Breaks the Internet: Wreck-It Ralph 2”, I’ve been kind of worried about the film, and this scene does sound kind of bad in my opinion. I hope the movie ends up being good, but I’m not too sure at this point

  • Harith Sami

    Wreck-it Ralph 2 trailer (disnye is totally ripping off the Emoji movie :p )
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJIDvyCWZhU

    • Dave 52

      Seriously? Disney is ripping off The Emoji Movie? You are joking right?

      • Yellow

        If you watch the whole clip, it makes sense.

        • Dave 52

          Yes, but that doesn’t mean it’s copying it.

          • Yellow

            Exactly; it’s just a joke.

      • Harith Sami

        Yup, the move was announced since 2012 and was about entering the world of the phone and internet. Sony announced the Emoji Movie in 2015.
        .
        Sony produced the movie in a short amount of time because of how simple the animation was which explains how they released the film one year before Disney’s.
        .
        Sony has probably spent the 3 years gap since Disney’s announcement on crafting a wonderful scrip with their finest story telling techniques. EMOJI MOVIE HYPE !!

  • Manuel Orozco

    I was a little nervous to see how Frozen’s slot in the panel was going to turn out. But it’s a relief we won’t be hearing any plot details for a while. As for Wreck It Ralph 2, my anticipation has been slightly decreased by the Disney Princess cameos. Mainly because even though it’s cool to see different Mouse House characters interacting, it might be unnecessary to say the word Disney when it’s actually their movie. I was even suspecting Jodi Benson was going to voice an original character when she was confirmed for the cast.

  • I would have LOVED to see that clip with Vanellope with the Disney princesses!! But yeah does seem a bit strange that they’d be in a video game movie. But I am really siked for the sequel still for sure!!
    Really exciting news!! :DDD

    • Manuel Orozco

      My thoughts exactly Haley

  • Jeremiah

    We’re getting a scene with ALL The princesses!? Gimme! Plus an official shoutout to OhMyDisney, that’s cool. I hope the teaser’s out soon.

  • My gosh, the premise of “Ralph Breaks The Internet” is literally copying off of “The Emoji Movie”!! I seriously feel so sick to my stomach and it’s not even funny. What ever happen to you Disney!?

    • Manuel Orozco

      I’m going to wait until Netflix to see Emoji movie and decide for myself if I agree with you or not.

    • Yellow

      Can you truly say that it’s copying the Emoji Movie? It’s likely a coincidence that the premises are similar, and rest assured, the execution is going to be quite different.

      • Manuel Orozco

        Precisely what I will be expecting.

      • Yes, I do think that Disney is copying off of “The Emoji Movie” along with the overwhelming product placement that’s going to be in there. Not to mention that they’re also going to insert their “OH MY DISNEY!” website in the movie as free advertisement and self-promotion. Now that alone is a dick move.

        • Yellow

          Maybe. I think we’re getting more of the meta humor we saw in Moana, although more on-the-nose. But it could easily double as promotion.

        • Dave 52

          Seriously? NOTHING happened to Disney. Ask yourself this: How can Wreck It Ralph 2 be copying The Emoji Movie when it was probably in development long before The Emoji Movie or probably just as long? The concepts and ideas the creators come up with probably existed long before The Emoji Movie came into existence and it’s pretty obvious that both films are going to have similar concepts but they will have wildly different executions. However, we don’t know how it will be executed because one isn’t released for a couple of weeks and one doesn’t come out until next year. Heck, a more logical case and argument would be The Emoji Movie copying the orignal Wreck It Ralph. It’s far more easier comparison to make then it is with the yet to be released sequel. Also, you do realize they are using things such as OH MY DISNEY to pretty much riff on themselves more so then promoting themselves right? It’s something that works on the level of The LEGO Movie or The LEGO Batman Movie. You see things that you would think is shameless self promotion but it’s actually cleverly written and funny that you kind of forgive it. You CAN promote yourself AND be clever and funny. It IS possible and it CAN be done. If a movie like Space Jam was written to be self aware of the fact that it’s main reason for existing was just to sell Nike shoes and that it’s own plot was so bizarre and nonsensical it would have been hilarious.

          • I get what you’re coming from but I’m still standing by my own statement. The bottom line is that I just absolutely hate of how my favorite form of entertainment is being affected by the toxic content that is “product placement”. Even if it’s just parodying the actual real life products which is what it seems to be in that Wreck It Ralph 2 promo picture. That’s pretty much of where I’m coming from. I just want animation to be taken more seriously and not look down upon as a kid’s thing which is why I like to heavily promote other studios like Cartoon Saloon that can tell better stories than Disney and that can also appeal much more to the adults than kids but can also still have that kid friendly look to it.

          • Dave 52

            I have no problem with you wanting animation to be taking seriously. Everyone wants animation to be taken seriously, I want animation to be taken seriously. However, I am aware of the fact that animation can be whatever you want it took to be. You can make an animated feature that is emotional and mature or silly and comedic or both. It is an blank canvas that with endless possibilities an there is no saying what you can and can’t do. What truly matters is how you execute that will determine whether or not your film deserves any kind of respect regardless if it’s serious or plain goofy. I do however have a problem with you saying Wreck It Ralph 2 is copying The Emoji Movie and you have little to back up that argument other than the fact that they doing self promoting and even then one seems to be using it’s self promotion more cleverly than the other.

  • I’ve tried to keep an open mind for Wreck it Ralph 2 but disney just keeps lowering my expectations. Not impressed with the OMD self advertising. And the princess meet up, while a very cool concept, just seems out of place and strange. If I had been on the Ralph 2 hype train to begin with, now’s the time I’d jumping off.

    • Dave 52

      I am still on the Ralph 2 train. I am loving the ideas they are coming up with and how they are having a more “LEGO movie style” of self awareness this time around in terms of concepts, humor, and world building. To me, the OMD scene sounds like it both a way for Disney to promote themselves but to more so take jabs at themselves as well by making fun of all of the Disney princesses and even the fact that Disney owns so many properties like Pixar, Star Wars, and Marvel.

      • Manuel Orozco

        I’m still on the Ralph 2 train too

  • Kindlebreath

    I actually think that the idea to see all the princesses together in one room and all the living voice actresses reprising their roles is very exciting and humorous in and of itself, but it seems out of place in Wreck it Ralph. It seems like some pretty obnoxious self promotion to dedicate an entire scene to a Disney website. Also, given how adamant Moana and Vanellope were about not being princesses, it’s kind of disappointing that they aren’t being true to that here. It was an important part of their characters that they could be powerful heroines without being “princesses.”

  • Landon Kemp

    I’m just going to say it: Sequels do not really have much of a place in the Disney Animated Canon.

    That said, though, I hope the Wreck-It Ralph sequel is at least decent. As someone with no real love for Frozen, however, I am not looking forward to the sequel at all.